what a glorious article!

My parents used to drink bourbon.

Beer is proof God loves us.

Thanks, Revolu.

So how healthy are/were your parents, Jason?

Yes, Nam Vet. And one of the cornerstones of civilization. I’ve heard the theory that agriculture, transportation and trade all arose from the desire to grow, move, and barter beer and wine. How’s that for cool?

My dad moved from bourbon to crack, and my mom has liver cancer.

Captain Killjoy strikes again.

Well, I guess they would’ve been better off drinking beer.

What are you crazy? Beer ruins lives.

I’ll be sure to pass this along to the families I work with, EM.

“Recommended amounts tend toward one beer per mom per day and no more than two per dad.”

I knew I was going to have to quote myself. Again.

If it keeps up at this rate, beer could outdistance circumcision two to one.

“If it keeps up at this rate, beer could outdistance circumcision two to one.”

This should be the next required quote for the next 48 Hour Film Project. In fact, I kind of want a shirt with that quote on it.

“If it keeps up at this rate, beer could outdistance circumcision two to one,” says Ken Hanke.

In fact, I think I’d like to put this on my next Edgy Mama T-shirt.

My dear sweet grandmother who passed away at the respectable age of 94 drank a single (usually Busch) beer at dinner and kept her agates and general health until the last months of her life.  If i wanna be like her i guess i best boost my beer intake.

EM, now that is a shirt I’d buy.

My T-shirt entry:

“Beer is proof God loves us”

zen, what is an “agates”?

One’s “agates” is one’s marbles (meaning mind or mental processes). Marbles, before glass used to be made of agate, the material agate, which is a fine-graned quarts with natural banding giving marbles individual looks.

so “having one’s agates” is an old way of saying that you were mentally sharp.

Geez, i’m old when young whippersnappers like you need me to explain my euphemisms.  I guess i’m a fossil.

quartz, not quarts.  Further proof.

“My T-shirt entry:

‘Beer is proof God loves us’”

I think it’s been done.

Ken, perhaps. But no harm in putting the slogan up again. “Beer is proof God loves us”.

Never mind where my foreskin went, bartender—pull me another pint.

I know where my foreskin is- I sold it on ebay as chewing gum.

Despite the completely correct use of the word “pull,” I think I’d have chosen an alternative in this particular instance.

You people and your innuendos.

Mr. Shanafelt is above such things. Or hes sorry he didn’t spot the chance first. Take your pick.

Hum, the last thing on my mind when drinking a pint of beer is foreskin. Don’t any of you boys think about tacos when drinking? It may be the bars you hangout in. :)

Great article, I’ll drink to that!

An August 13, 2002, a Wall Street Journal article reported that beer “delivers protection against major ailments such as heart attacks, stroke, hypertension, diabetes, and dementia.” According to Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy: The Harvard Medical School’s Guide to Healthy Eating (2001), a book that reviews all the science and all the studies, moderate alcohol consumption “protects against heart disease and ischemic strokes, and mounting evidence [shows] that it protects against diabetes and gallstones.”

Years ago, PETA had a “Milk Sucks, Drink Beer!” campaign.  It included the info above and made the case that you can drink beer responsibly, but the same can’t be said of milk.”  Check it out at
http://www.milksucks.com/beersurvey.asp

Drinking milk does not harm the cow. Thank you cows for giving me ice cream, cheese, and yogurt. I bow to you and pay you back by not eating your dead flesh or wearing your skin as shoes or belts. And milk never has led to alcoholic addiction.

Drink milk! AND drink beer (in moderation)!

I have a feeling of deja vu coming on.

and…Mr. Stewart, your vegan website link will be…

“Thank you cows for giving me ice cream, cheese, and yogurt”

Not to mention the enlightenment of humanity by providing us with psilocybe mushrooms.  Thanks, cows!

Nam Vet,

I wish that were true! 

The 9 million cows living on dairy farms in the United States spend most of their lives in large sheds or on feces-caked mud lots, where disease is rampant. Cows raised for their milk are repeatedly impregnated. Their babies are taken away so that humans can drink the milk intended for the calves. When their exhausted bodies can no longer provide enough milk, they are sent to slaughter and ground up for hamburgers.

Mother cows on dairy farms can often be seen searching and calling for their calves long after they have been separated. Author Oliver Sacks, M.D., wrote of a visit that he and cattle expert Dr. Temple Grandin made to a dairy farm and of the great tumult of bellowing that they heard when they arrived: “‘They must have separated the calves from the cows this morning,’ Temple said, and, indeed, this was what had happened. We saw one cow outside the stockade, roaming, looking for her calf, and bellowing. ‘That’s not a happy cow,’ Temple said. ‘That’s one sad, unhappy, upset cow. She wants her baby. Bellowing for it, hunting for it. She’ll forget for a while, then start again. It’s like grieving, mourning—not much written about it. People don’t like to allow them thoughts or feelings.’”

Cows produce milk for the same reason that humans do: to nourish their babies. In order to force the animals to continue giving milk, factory farmers impregnate them using artificial insemination every year. Calves are generally taken from their mothers within a day of being born—males are destined for veal crates, and females are sentenced to the same fate as their mothers.

Why support all this suffering when you can drink beer instead?

Ken, you’re prescient!

Why are we talking about milk and foreskins again?

Stewart, that just isn’t true. Pick one of our local organic dairies and actually go out and visit. You’ll find the cows contented and well cared for. And no murders being committed on them. Tying lacto-vegetarianism to the killing and dissecting of cows, then the eating of their dead body parts, just doesn’t connect. It is just an extreme anal retentive reach for the PETA and vegan types, who often wear leather themselves anyway. The Hindus in India have been using dairy for 1000s of years and they honor cows as much or more than humans. They never eat dead animal body parts.

Ken’s deja vu remark was about the foreskin, no doubt. He stikes me as a no-milk-all-beer-drinking kind of guy. :)

Stewart and Nam Vet: As fascinating as this new, cow-oriented topic is, it has almost nothing to do with this blog’s topic, and threatens to derail the overall discussion. I strongly suggest that if you want to talk about animal rights and the dairy industry, you take it to the Xpress forums. Further posts not relating to Edgy Mama’s “Beer is good for you” blog will be removed.

http://www.mountainx.com/forums/

i scored some great brew @ bruising ales last week.  including some of the last cold mountain ale in asheville.  i couldn’t believe it when i saw it sitting on the shelf.

again, yea for beer!

That is ace!
Love beer too! I did read about it somewhere else also about it being good for the heart but I had no idea about those other things.
Cheers!

Wow Steve, HEAVY! Are you speaking for Jon now? Perhaps you have some guilt as a dead animal part consumer. Or perhaps you haven’t had your beer yet? My point is this. Drink milk AND beer…both in moderation. And leave the editorial tasks to your boss.

Steve,

How is it that I can’t compare drinking beer to drinking milk without your threat of censorship, but a discussion of foreskin is relevant?  And a comparison of beer to bourbon and crack doesn’t merit a similar warning?

Teacher Teacher!

Can i post a link to the Sally Fallon website then? About how beer and fermented raw meat are very good for you? Ooooh oooh oooh!

Stewart and Nam Vet: Your comments were veering off-topic, and the posts that provoked the warning had nothing to do with Edgy Mama’s blog. Being the admin for the A & E blogs, and being very familiar with both of your posting histories, I issued you both a very clear warning not to turn this post into a two-person hobby-horse race. That warning stands.

It’s fine if you want to discuss milk, vegan diets and animal rights — just not on this thread. We have provided a space on our Web site, Xpress Forums, just for you to do so. But, you are not going to shoehorn in these unrelated comments into this Edgy Mama thread.

You both have Xpress site accounts, so starting a thread on the forums will be very, very easy. Click on the forums tab in the upper right hand corner of the page, find the appropriate section of the forums to place your comment in, and then start a discussion thread about the topic of your choice.

Also be sure to read the Forum Rules, which are posted as the first topic in each section.

Beer is good for you…

Nice work, Molton! And right on topic…

Steve,

Again, how is a discussion of foreskin relevant?

Stewart: One of the most commented-upon Edgy Mama columns was “To cut or not to cut,” which you can read here:

http://www.mountainx.com/ae/2007/edgy_mama_to_cut_or_not_to_cut

It’s a familiar reference for many regular Edgy Mama readers, and has become a kind of in-joke. If someone was trying to fight the foreskin battle (or any derailing topic for that matter) in this column’s blog comments, I’d tell them to take it to the forums as well.

Steve, I still think you were being selective in “enforcement”. Your warning seems a bit heavy to me, as it apparently did to Stewart. Just what set you off? You talk of being familiar with “posting history”. That sends up a flag right there. Were you offended by a past remark of either of us and are just now reacting? You post here as a regular person, yet you are staff as well. A bit of a conflict of interest, isn’t it? I do try to stay on topic, so any veerings are momentary blips. Next time, I’d appreciate a little less ominous “warning”.

Back on topic, BEER IS GOOD! (in moderation)

Nam Vet,

Agree, beer is good stuff.  And, dare I say it, better for you than most other beverages, especially sugar-ladened sodas, coffee, and non-human mammary secretions. 

If you know my last name you’ll find my phone number listed.  Feel free to call and I will explain Steve’s heavy-handed overraction that led to his selective enforcement, also known as viewpoint discrimination.  If I wrote it here, I’d be off topic and he’d surely delete it.  He might even delete this!

Nam Vet and Stewart: Thank you both for coming back to the topic at hand. Part of my job is to keep the A&E;forums and blogs safe, secure and sane, and there’s nothing ominous about telling you to take your personal and off-topic preoccupations out of this thread and move it to the place we’ve created for just such discussions.

Heeheehee…

I love beer. I drink beer daily and it shows on my small frame (love handles, beer belly, spare tire…hahaha…beer butt coming soon).

I love good beer (porters, ales, IPA’s), but why can’t they make a lower calorie version of it?

Beer tip: go to French Broad Brewing Company, adjacent to Biltmore Village. Buy a “growler” of your favorite beer. Mine is “Wee-heavier Scotch Ale”. $10 even. No deposit. BUT,if you wash the empty bottle and go back to the brewery, you can get it refilled for only $8. A real deal considering you get 4 pint glasses from the bottle.

Thanks, Nam Vet. Love French Broad and the Wee-Heavier—although I can only drink a little at a time!

mmm…...we have *two* full growlers in my fridge from FB right now. :) Too bad I have to go shoot a show tonight, otherwise I’d be draining one right now!

Just give me a cold 6 pack of Miller and I’m happy.