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Reply #16 • May 11, 2009  07:51 PM
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The (PFKaP) - 11 May 2009 07:48 PM

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shad,  i dont think cherry-pits will produce a fruit-bearing tree. but im not sure. I thought they were like apples, needing grafting, or whatever…

What do you know ‘bout it, Christopher NC?

I was talking avocados. I don’t have the patience or stay in one place long enough to be trying to grown trees from a pit.

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Reply #17 • May 11, 2009  08:04 PM
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From what I have heard, there are a few varieties that can now grow as far north as northern florida, some even say southern georgia.  But the winters in the mountains, as Chris said, will kill em every time. You can keep em in a greenhouse, or bring em inside, though.

Of course, they take 50 some odd years to produce fruit, and need a mate of the opposite sex, so it’s a very long-term investment.

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Reply #18 • May 11, 2009  08:49 PM
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The (PFKaP) - 11 May 2009 07:48 PM

pics?

Sorry. I lost most of my day to the HVAC guy, as our air conditioning went out over the weekend. I’ll get out there tomorrow and get those photos so I can be properly mocked for being horrible at plants.

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Reply #19 • May 11, 2009  09:32 PM
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Sorry. I lost most of my day to the HVAC guy, as our air conditioning went out over the weekend. I’ll get out there tomorrow and get those photos so I can be properly mocked for being horrible at plants.

Do ya have a flash on your camera? Aren’t you supposed to be a bit geeky in the high tech arena?

Cherry, peach and avocado like most fruit trees can produce fruit from seed in seven to ten years generally when they reach maturity. However you are taking the genetic roll of the dice and have no clue what the fruit will be like until then. It could be the next fruity sensation or it could be the pits or a total dud. Selective breeding of known parentage has the same wait time to test for new varieties.

Fruit trees, including avocado are grafted to get mature fruit bearing wood of a known clonal variety on root stock that can begin bearing fruit in three to four years.

Avocados are self cross pollinating for the most part. The flowers change sex and become male on the second day. The various ages of flowers on the same tree can cross pollinate each other.

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Reply #20 • May 11, 2009  09:38 PM
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I’m geeky, but I’m a crappy photographer and own a crappy camera.

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Reply #21 • May 11, 2009  09:44 PM
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Avocados are self cross pollinating for the most part. The flowers change sex and become male on the second day. The various ages of flowers on the same tree can cross pollinate each other.

Hmmm. Perhaps there are different varieties in Hawaii, but i was always taught/learned/read growing up in California that Avocados are monosexual, or whatever the technical term is. That they need a male and female. Guess my biology teacher was wrong.

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The species is only partially able to self-pollinate, because of dichogamy in its flowering. This limitation, added to the long juvenile period, makes the species difficult to breed. Most cultivars are propagated via grafting, having originated from random seedling plants or minor mutations derived from cultivars.

The avocado is unusual in that the timing of the male and female flower phases differs among cultivars. There are two flowering types, “A” and “B”. “A” cultivar flowers open as female on the morning of the first day and close in late morning or early afternoon. Then they open as male in the afternoon of the second day. “B” varieties open as female on the afternoon of the first day, close in late afternoon and reopen as male the following morning.

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Reply #22 • May 12, 2009  03:29 PM
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OK, finally went out side. (It was scary ... all that air and green.)

First and foremost, what’s this thing?

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I don’t know what it is, but it’s all spiky and I don’t like the look of it very much.

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Reply #23 • May 12, 2009  03:32 PM
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Then there’s all this stuff, which is about one quarter of what I’ll jokingly call my “patch.” A plant death-match is probably more accurate.

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Reply #24 • May 12, 2009  03:36 PM
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Steve Shanafelt - 12 May 2009 03:32 PM

Then there’s all this stuff, which is about one quarter of what I’ll jokingly call my “patch.” A plant death-match is probably more accurate.

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In the upper left quadrant closer to center, it appears that you have some strawberries going.

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Reply #25 • May 12, 2009  03:43 PM
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I do have strawberries. Those are the only plants I’m certain about, because I actually planted them properly. Everything else is a mystery.

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Reply #26 • May 12, 2009  07:37 PM
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The tall spiky thing is a weed and you are right, you’re a lousy photographer. You can’t really tell from that shot what is what. Try an image search of seedlings for things you planted or look and see if your camera has a little flower icon for closeups and take pictures were we can decipher the individual plants.

PFKaP with avocado in orchard situations they may be more likely to plant A and B types to ensure good fruit set. My single tree never had a problem setting fruit since all the flowers don’t bloom in two days. The bloom period lasted about a month, enough to self pollinate. Plus I had plenty pollinators in the garden.

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Reply #27 • May 17, 2009  12:48 PM
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i think you should pull everything but the strawberries, steve.

give them a chance to thrive.


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Reply #28 • May 17, 2009  01:22 PM
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Good Lord, that looks like forest undergrowth.
There is a particular type of ivy -three leaves and shiny- that is particularly delicious on salads. You can find it in the woods.

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Reply #29 • May 17, 2009  04:09 PM
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Mmmmmm…  Poisen-y!

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Reply #30 • May 17, 2009  08:55 PM
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The (PFKaP) - 17 May 2009 12:48 PM

i think you should pull everything but the strawberries, steve.

give them a chance to thrive.


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Agreed.  Then the bunnies will eat your berries and you can start up a new hobby.

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