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Reply #16 • Jul 10, 2009  10:57 PM
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What about her name surgery? Was there anything wrong with the name, “Frances Ethel Gumm” (except for the first, middle and last name parts of it?)?

 
Reply #17 • Jul 11, 2009  10:32 AM
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Are you talking about Judy or Jolie?

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Reply #18 • Jul 11, 2009  07:42 PM
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What about her name surgery? Was there anything wrong with the name, “Frances Ethel Gumm” (except for the first, middle and last name parts of it?)?

I think more people would have taken her acting seriously if she’d kept the name.

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Reply #19 • Jul 12, 2009  10:43 AM
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Ya know Judy Garlands decent into drug addled hell always makes me sad..those clips of her in her 30s totally drugged out of her mind trying to sing..telling freaky jokes about the wizard of oz..slurring her words..makes ya want to cry..such a wonderful talented child turned into a confused drug addicted meat puppet , still trying to entertain..and ends up being a mere shadow of her former beautiful self…

I wanted to remember over the rainbow..

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Reply #20 • Jul 12, 2009  01:25 PM
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So you are trying to separate the talented person of her youth from the drug-addled and rather troubled person she became?

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Reply #21 • Jul 12, 2009  01:52 PM
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You like that drug-addled word..huh..

Are you gonna try some weak Judy Garland..Michael Jackson..Parallel ?

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Reply #22 • Jul 12, 2009  02:50 PM
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Not really a parallel, just pointing out your ridiculous double standard.

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Reply #23 • Jul 12, 2009  04:04 PM
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Well, you see, that’s a pop-icon from his generation…  a whole different thing.

and she was white.

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Reply #24 • Jul 12, 2009  09:07 PM
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Not really a parallel, just pointing out your ridiculous double standard.

I not only have a double standard I gave a triple and quadruple standard…I mean half the time I hate Cheney and think he is an amoral war monger profiteer, and the rest of the time I think he is a great defender of our country trying to save us from Islam extremists..

Actually Judy and Michael have the child star who descended into a drug induced delusional hell in common.

Although I don’t recall Judy being accused of child molest..

My ability to see things from various points of view is one of my finer qualities..thanx for pointing it out Waffles…Civility is a virtue..

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Reply #25 • Jul 12, 2009  09:15 PM
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Well, you see, that’s a pop-icon from his generation…  a whole different thing.

and she was white.

Piffy calling me a bigot and an old fart in one sentence must be commended..oh and the she reference makes me a sexist also..

Ya know you are right…I have a tendency to let the girls slide more than I do the boys..so does the legal system..see the thread on girls getting off light for the same crime..very juicy..

Also I have an unconscious fear of black people..I mean if I saw a short Jewish girl approaching me and a moon walking black man approaching me in an alley..I would avoid the moon walker..

As far as me favoring old people of my generation..over young people..not really.. I dig you semi young folks…you’re cool with me..

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Reply #26 • Jul 12, 2009  09:19 PM
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careful. If you over-react too much you might prove to be a sociopath.

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Reply #27 • Jul 12, 2009  09:24 PM
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and why is it that people get so worked over being called a bigot (although i didnt do so)? I mean, basically every white person i know, including myself, is a racist.l its our culture. pointing out that you might have more of a sympathy for judy garlands twisted decent into a fog of drugs and fame than michael jacksons is pointing out something that is, among other things, a potential symptom of a racist culture we all been raised in. deal with it. check the multiple threads dealing with ‘racism’ if you really want to try and bring that crap up as if you are the first guy to ever be called a bigot. wah.

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Reply #28 • Jul 12, 2009  10:06 PM
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I’m racist in the sense that I don’t think Italians should have jobs.

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Reply #29 • Jul 12, 2009  10:16 PM
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you mean beyond organized crime and making pizza, right?

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Reply #30 • Jul 12, 2009  10:45 PM
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I don’t know. I just wanted to arbitrarily hate an ethnic group to see what it felt like.

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