This man was a serial child molester, an unfit parent (let’s not even talk about the baby dangling incident) and in complete denial about the fact that he was a grown man (dare I mention the tree climbing…) In the words of Katt Williams “how did Martha go to prison when Michael Jackson’s walkin around smelling like roses!
Michael Jackson is a pedophile, the families were paid very well to keep it out of court, any guy who sleeps with children in his bed is behavior that shows he has indecent tendencies towards children.
I’m not here to speak ill of the dead..What is most interesting to me is
“One of the immutable laws of marketing”
Once people believe things go better with Coke..it doesn’t matter that it rots your teeth out, makes you fat and wastes your money..
Once people make up there mind about something, they don’t want to change it//
The perception of Michael Jackson as a wonderful black man that sings and dances..permeated the 60s 70s and 80s…
When credible evidence came up that he liked to seduce 13 year old boys with “Jesus Juice “and have oral sex with them…It didn’t matter so much..we really didn’t want to change our mind..those first impressions really are important..
The human mind wants to categorize things quickly..there is so much information to process ..
we don’t have time to really check things out…quite often who ever makes the first, strongest favorable impression wins the lion share of the market place…
Our last election is a prime example..Obama just looks goods and sounds good..Hillary looks old and sounds tired..First impressions..It doesn’t matter that Hillary had more experience..had spent 8 years in the white house..was married to one of the smartest most sucessful presidents we’ve ever had…and had proved her self to be a scraper who could really get things done.. Obama had won the majority of the market share..with his smile and presentation.. but that’s another thread..
Here’s another quote from someone I believe has a more thoughtful view
I totally agree with you. That is the truth!!! Now that Michael jackson is dead everyone wants to pretend like he was never a child molester out of respect for him. I’ve even had people write me hate messages cause I wrote “Wacko Jacko is dead, atleast it saves the children”. People are absolutely out of their minds blindly worshipping him , and even turning the other cheek to his child molestation history by saying ludacris things like “He’s saved more lives than hurt lives”. I was dumb founded and disgusted. The fact that he molested ONE child is enough and causes so much pain and damage to the child’s life and his/her family and it’s gonna take alot of therapy and healing to get over what Michael jackson did to the poor innocent little boys.
There’s a thread about Jackson’s death. Try reading the forums.
I think the thing people are going to have to do is to try to seperate the man from his music. It’s been done with artists before, and it’ll happen again. Jackson’s influence on music and popular culture as a whole is undeniable, and to say that him Moonwalking in 1983 doesn’t matter because of something he did in 1998 is rather simple minded and dumb.
Jackson described his sleepovers as a “beautiful thing,” innocent pajama parties with milk and cookies.
Prosecutors, however, painted Jackson as a serial pedophile who lured boys from troubled backgrounds and groomed them for his sexual advances with pornography, alcohol and discussions about masturbation.
Details from the case ranged from sexually explicit tobizarre. Pornography found at Neverland included magazines featuring mature and overweight women. Jackson reportedly referred to white wine as “Jesus juice.”
The boy’s mother testified that Jackson had held the family captive and later forced them to make a video testimonial rebutting the documentary.
The defense responded that she coached her son to lie and to use his battle with cancer to beg for money from celebrities.
Jurors watched video of Jackson explaining his behavior. He described a lonely childhood and an abusive father. His friendships with children, he said, were a way to regain what he had lost.
After the trial, several jurors hinted — and some said bluntly — they suspected he had molested children but they hadn’t seen evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. “We would hope he doesn’t sleep with children anymore,” jury foreman Paul Rodriguez said.
tHANX wAFFLES FOR KEEPING THIS ALIVE..YOUR GLIB AND PROFOUNDLY uninsightful insights are greatly appreciated..If we didn’t have people like you..how would the rest of us appear intelligent..
Comment on this genius..
If Mike woulda been sleeping with 13 year old girls he woulda died in prison…
Way to miss my point Richey. Seriously. If you bring someone’s personal life into the light, I’m sure we can find something objectionable for most artists.
John Lennon beat his first wife.
Mick Jagger was a drug addict.
The list goes on and on.
Pretty soon all your left with is Perry Como albums.
I can see your point…we deify our celebrities…we excuse their bad behavior…
And you’re right.. nobodies perfect and artists seem to have more than their share of flaws..
How do people deal with someone they love who does horrible things…Ambivalence can drive ya nuts.. If this were black and white the forums wouldn’t be humming about this…
I don’t want to re-litigate Mike’s case, but I will say a couple things. I’m sure there will be plenty of MJ condemnation, and people are welcome to do it. My own perspective is formed by two factors.
1.) I’ve, at times, heard of the death of awful people and thought “Good riddance.” But upon reflection, that feeling rarely keeps. When Jeffrey Dahmer died, I initially thought it served him right. And then I got to thinking about the internal torture that must have made him who he was, and I lost my righteousness. When the mountain falls on people who’ve spent their lives inflicting pain on others, I am rarely comforted for long.
This is a point of religion, for me. I don’t expect everyone to see it my way. Death is f%^& up. I don’t wish it on anyone. I don’t have much use for evaluating who deserves the sword, and when they should get it.
2.) Ray Lewis may well be an accessory to a man’s murder. But when I watch him run up and down field on Sunday, it sparks something in me. Woody Allen wooed his wife’s adopted daughter, and may well be a child molester. But I think Bananas makes me laugh. Mike Tyson is, among other things, a convicted rapist. But I had not lived until I saw him demolish Trevor Berbick. And so on…
I guess I could peel these people out my life. I guess I could stop seperating art from men. Regrettably, I think, I wouldn’t be left with much art worth admiring. Sometimes awful people, do beautiful things. One doesn’t cancel the other. And mourning the loss of human life, does not excuse the sins of that life.
People who don’t feel that way are welcome to their opinions. I’m not sure why they insist that others share them.
Richy, you have a tendency to put big paragraphs in a quote box with no attribution. this thread is full of them. are you quoting yourself?
in addition, i dont think mr jackson was ever convicted of child molestation. i think most those charges against him were dropped for a big, hefty settlement. i guess the accusers preferred money to ‘justice’.
oh, and why is this in the movie tv video section? you have a tendency of putting things in the wrong section, too. board smarter.
I really should put where the quotes come from.. will try harder..
Jackson was in the movies videos ect…loose I know but that’s the way I roll
As far as Jackson being guilty or not..I read the transcripts and the testimony..I had a friend who worked for Jackson ( they had to sign away their life to work for him) Jacksons thugs would threaten to kill any one who said they might squeal…Anyway my friend put any doubt as to Jacksons guilt to bed for me..
I’m just getting sick of all the adoration for a guy that should of spent the last 15 years in the joint..
Here’s a quote from Richey…
There is a time when outrage is a positive response to an event.. when a pillar of our society who has pilfered 65 billion from his trusting clients…When a Super Star pays under privileged parents large sums of money so he can molest their children..When a Governor lies to the press, his cabinet, his wife and then leaves his post to rendezvous with his mistress in a foreign land and then cries and begs for forgiveness…Outrage is appropriate..the purpose of Outrage is to stop behavior that is harmful to us…It’s not politically correct to be outraged,, but it’s important you find it and express it or the world stops making sense…you start to feel hollow because nothing touches you…wake up.. be Outraged!!!
so, your quoting yourself? from what? your journal?
As far as Jackson being guilty or not..I read the transcripts and the testimony..I had a friend who worked for Jackson ( they had to sign away their life to work for him) Jacksons thugs would threaten to kill any one who said they might squeal…Anyway my friend put any doubt as to Jacksons guilt to bed for me..
ahhh, yes, innuendo and speculation, mixed with unconfirmed third and fourth hand hearsay. very credible indeed.
I actually Googled “Sociopathe” and got a bunch of French language websites, which leads me to believe that you are an ignorant Quebecois.
I feel pain like plenty of people. In fact, my arms are sore from playing roller hockey on Saturday.
I feel the same need to attack strangers on the internet that you do. I mean, I’m just calling you a simple minded vulgarian for using third handed half truths and conjecture to talking about a dead person. You are just calling someone a child molester. Who’s the worse person?
I have plenty of empathy for others. That’s why I think you are retarded. If you send me your address, I’ll email you some nice marbles to play with.
The word you were looking for was “Sociopath”, by the way.
