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WOODSTOCK 40TH ANNIVERSARY 1969-2009
 
Reply #31 • Aug 10, 2009  02:29 PM
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It’ll take a few more years before the kids get tired of 80-ish electro-punk-pop and need some soungarden and nirvana to clean their heads…

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Reply #32 • Aug 11, 2009  06:16 PM
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There’s no such thing as the good ol’ days, just different days. That feeling people were getting about anything being possible is what happens in a person’s youth. The Woodstock generation’s youth were no better or no different than anyone else’s.

No, they WERE the good ole’ days. We had a social conscience then. Now, who’s doing what about the atrocity in the middle east? I don’t see many huge organized protests, like the ones we had.
Don’t see “Let’s change the world!” protests either. Do see a little more activism than I did in the
80’s and 90’s - I kept asking (poor) (as in met with my wrath) gen xers why they weren’t doing
anything for the world? Told them that they were just wasting space. (nothing like a little pomposity from a hippy to help you along.)

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Reply #33 • Aug 11, 2009  06:34 PM
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There’s no such thing as the good ol’ days, just different days. That feeling people were getting about anything being possible is what happens in a person’s youth. The Woodstock generation’s youth were no better or no different than anyone else’s.

No, they WERE the good ole’ days. We had a social conscience then. Now, who’s doing what about the atrocity in the middle east? I don’t see many huge organized protests, like the ones we had.
Don’t see “Let’s change the world!” protests either. Do see a little more activism than I did in the
80’s and 90’s - I kept asking (poor) (as in met with my wrath) gen xers why they weren’t doing
anything for the world? Told them that they were just wasting space. (nothing like a little pomposity from a hippy to help you along.)

Surely you must jest. This is the kind of baby-boomer nonsense that anyone under 40 is sick of hearing…

What, exactly, did ‘your generation’ accomplish in terms of “making the world a better place”?

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Reply #34 • Aug 11, 2009  06:39 PM
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What, exactly, did ‘your generation’ accomplish in terms of “making the world a better place”?

Silly you. Guess you didn’t hear that Idiot Johnson found out that we shouldn’t bomb Laos, that was released to the news media, so he stopped? And where did that come from? THE PEOPLE!
(the Marxist in me) How about NOW, just to jerk your chain? How about communes? Better way
to live, no doubt. How about peace? I think, immodestly, that we kinda pushed that on people.
And, what did you do to change the world today?

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Reply #35 • Aug 11, 2009  06:47 PM
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You mean besides calling you out on your absurd baby-boomer jerkathon?

Well, i pulled weeds in my garden. Read some more articles about NATO in Afghanistan, and didnt drive a car…

It took over a decade of continued protest by many people from many walks of life, generations, income levels, and countries to help bring about an ‘end’ to the Vietnam war. And it could very easily be argued that this still had little to do with the real reasons behind the eventual American Pullout. You insistence upon claiming it was “your generation” that ‘ended’ the war is absurd. And the desire to then take that entirely off-target generalization and compare it to the current generation’s involvement in the Anti-war movement is just as silly.

You cant even begin to compare the two situations, and only an entirely self-obsessed, navel-gazing Boomer would fall victim to thinking their particular generation is the litmus test to which all other should be judged…

Where were you in late fall of 99 whenn tens of thousands protested the WTO? Where where you in 2001 when most of America was screaming war (including most “boomers” I knew)? Where were you when tens of thousands showed up in Miamai to protest the FTAA in the face of well-armed police state? Where were you when Hillary Clinton said she would support bombing Iran?

EDIT:Best line ever?Seriously, instead of acting sanctimonious, blow me.  It’ll feel good for me and give you a feeling of accomplishment.

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Reply #36 • Aug 11, 2009  10:00 PM
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bully4kate - 11 August 2009 06:16 PM
Bugg - 09 August 2009 06:42 PM

There’s no such thing as the good ol’ days, just different days. That feeling people were getting about anything being possible is what happens in a person’s youth. The Woodstock generation’s youth were no better or no different than anyone else’s.

No, they WERE the good ole’ days. We had a social conscience then. Now, who’s doing what about the atrocity in the middle east? I don’t see many huge organized protests, like the ones we had.
Don’t see “Let’s change the world!” protests either. Do see a little more activism than I did in the
80’s and 90’s - I kept asking (poor) (as in met with my wrath) gen xers why they weren’t doing
anything for the world? Told them that they were just wasting space. (nothing like a little pomposity from a hippy to help you along.)


Give me a break. You act like you and your ilk invented social conscience and it died the exact moment you and your lame ass sycophants decided to “grow up” and sell out all of your ideals for minivans and palm pilots. Seriously, instead of acting sanctimonious, blow me.  It’ll feel good for me and give you a feeling of accomplishment.

Do I really need to go down the laundry list of groups out there railing against the bull kaka that is happening in this world that companies headed by people of your generation choose to ignore or suppress because it’s too relevant to what’s going on? Do I really need to bring up that your generation choose to market a nostalgic, non threatening caricature of what happened during your heyday? You’re all frosting and no cake. You’re a day tripper, a weekend hippie and you make me sick.

The best thing every boomer who is railing in the streets about the good ol’ days and how us kids just don’t get it can do is off themselves. At least then we’ll know you had the courage to finally do something, instead of start the ball rolling and give up the moment your hands got a little dirty.

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Reply #37 • Aug 11, 2009  11:58 PM
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Just as Bully4kate’s disparagement of gen-xers is off base, this fixation on the Baby Boomer generation as a bunch of blowhards is a bit misdirected. The baby boom generation is everyone born between like 1945 to 1960. EVERYONE of them across the entire spectrum of American culture. You can’t separate them from their parents who birthed them and raised them in the post war economy that switched from war to consumption. Their parents are the ones who got suburbia and consumption rolling, not them little babies.

Yes where we are now has a few glaring problems that the extreme divisiveness of civil discourse makes near impossible to deal with on a thoughtful and diplomatic basis. Blaming it on the baby boomers is just a lazy explanation for complex cultural issues. There are certain vested interests that like to keep Americans at each others throats so that nothing will change and nothing will get done to hurt their profit. We have been analyzed, marketed to and manipulated to the max.

And a few good things could be attributed to the baby boom generation if we are going to play that game. The first earth day and the birth of the modern environmental movement was in 1970. A lot of anti-pollution and species protection laws followed. A renaissance of organic gardening and farming gained traction. Civil rights and womens rights matured with the baby boom generation. Can we claim the birth of rock and roll? The draft was ended in no small part due to the unpopularity of Vietnam, even if I would agree it ended when the powers that be were done more than anything else.

Whose generation would the first computer nerds belong to? Gen-X? I think not.

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Reply #38 • Aug 12, 2009  12:07 AM
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Yes, Chris, but no one here is trying to claim that Gen X has some kind of trademark on youth or rebellion or societal change. But more than a couple have tried to imply that the generation that by-and-large was the majority of those at “Woodstock” somehow do/did (Emphasis on the past-tense) have such a trademark.

I like Hendrix. But just because someone was born roughly around the same time as him, or maybe saw him once, doesnt make them a good guitar player.

The notion that the “60’s” were somehow more “radical” than any other time is a bad cliche perpetuated by the particular generation who has the audacity to think music from their era is somehow “Classic”. Talk-about self-obsessed.

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Reply #39 • Aug 12, 2009  12:22 AM
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Oh, self obsessed is the pejorative phrase. You should hear what passes for real classic music in my house. Step back another 20 years. I think the appropriate term would be quaint.

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Reply #40 • Aug 12, 2009  05:42 AM
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Crosby, Stills and Nash Suite: Judy Blue Eyes Woodstock 1969

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Reply #41 • Aug 12, 2009  05:44 AM
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Richie Havens Freedom Woodstock 1969

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Reply #42 • Aug 12, 2009  09:25 AM
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This is for all you unromantics: bite me.

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Reply #43 • Aug 12, 2009  09:29 AM
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This is for all you unromantics: bite me.

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Reply #44 • Aug 12, 2009  09:33 AM
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Cypress Hill owns you, I’m afraid. Unless there’s some Crosby, Stills and Nash crowd-surfing video I’ve not yet seen.

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Reply #45 • Aug 12, 2009  11:23 AM
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Do you remember when we ended Communism in the 80’s? Now that  was a generation. With the music to go with it. Kids today totally know nothing about being young.

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