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Is gloating about Asheville’s renaissance the AC-T’s new fad?
 
Reply #16 • Sep 28, 2009  10:38 PM
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pfff - 28 September 2009 08:19 PM

As one of the few here who grew up in Asheville, can you tell us about 99 vs 2009? What wasbetter then and why? Whats better now?

I remember enjoying the fact that almost everybody knew each other. And all the run down storefronts you could hang out at in front of and play music.

I took a while to answer this because I was (and still am, to a degree) trying to separate what Asheville was like back then with the rose-tinted and warm feelings of my early 20s.

In ‘99 Asheville felt a lot poorer.  I don’t know if that is the right word, but there wasn’t as much money freely flowing through town.  People had their thing and did it, but still mingled with people that wasn’t necessarily yuppies or hippies or anarcho punks. Vincent’s Ear was hopping but so was the Emerald Lounge (or was it Natural Mystic back then?).  The Bier Garden was the bar I hung out in, and they had drum circles every Thursday. It was still a jock hellhole, but it also had an open mind about most stuff.

Sure there wasn’t the string of quaint shops populating every corner, but the shops that were here catered to locals and there wasn’t a seemingly never ending stream of touristy boutiques that opened and closed every three months.

The town seemed to have more characters and the chaos that happened when they all bumped into each other was always entertaining. There were cool bums and crazy dudes from the Christian Coffeehouse right beside Vincent’s who always seemed to be wanting to fight or talk to you about Mumia. I even miss the “Free Mumia” stickers and spray paint on every surface.

In a lot of ways, the town seemed less divided back then. We had separate lives, we did our things, but we still partied together.

All of the cliches and bumper sticker-ready slogans that people attribute to Asheville were probably born in the mid-to-late-nineties/early aughts and died with Vincent’s in 2003/2004.

I guess that’s where some of the bitterness I have about Asheville comes into being. It went from a sleepy little redneck town with a few cool bubbles and then money came in, corrupted it and it turned into a brand name instead of a collection of cool people. People came to town thinking that they understood the how and why of it because they read about it in a magazine/website and then immediately started changing it.  I think I said this a while back, but it’s true: they came here for City Bakery, and then after six months realized that they missed Atlanta Bread Company.  They came here for the PBR sippin’ punk rock/jam band culture and then realized six months later that they’d rather have the Avett Brothers, Acoustic Syndicate and Beer City USA.  The whole town feels forced in a way.  It feels disposable and contrived compared to what it was.


I don’t know if that answered your question at all, but there it is.

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Reply #17 • Sep 28, 2009  10:41 PM
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Bugg, baby, you should move to Athens, GA.

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Reply #18 • Sep 28, 2009  10:44 PM
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I like Athens for visits. There’s too much college football for my tastes.

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Reply #19 • Sep 28, 2009  10:49 PM
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Bugg - 28 September 2009 10:44 PM

I like Athens for visits. There’s too much college football for my tastes.

I’d trade what I got now for that small grief.

Of course, then I’d just be a co-opter there.

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Reply #20 • Sep 28, 2009  10:51 PM
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i think that sums up my experience with asheville since i first came there in 99, quite well bugg.

It feels all plastic-ey and, yes, forced these days. Still awesome in many ways, but obviously it can never be the affordable, yet-to-be-discovered mecca it once was. i think we’ve all articulate these thoughts quite well in multiple threads at this point.

i still love asheville. ####### magical. But i dont want to live anywhere near downtown, and i havent really since about 2004/5, at the latest. And its gotten really bad in the last few years. I guess we just let the richey’s have their way with it. Ash Vague Ass will bring them around eventually. Like when their houses slide off the mountain and the drum circle keeps them up all night in their fancy condos, and the next wave of assholes moves in and takes over what they have begun to love and start changing it for the worse and claiming ownership of things they have had nothing to do with until last week…

Of course, then I’d just be a co-opter there.

why would you choose to do that? You dont really seem like the type to “start changing it for the worse and claiming ownership of things they have had nothing to do with until last week…”

Smart. Ass. Dick.

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The only thing you’ve co-opted is my heart, and you did that with great posting.

You are a great example of someone who BOARDs HARD.

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Reply #22 • Sep 28, 2009  10:53 PM
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until he makes fun of you in one of your melancholy binges and you get all but hurt.

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Reply #23 • Sep 28, 2009  10:55 PM
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Our love is a topsy-turvy love. You would never understand.

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Reply #24 • Sep 28, 2009  10:59 PM
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Which one of you is the Top, then?

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Reply #25 • Sep 28, 2009  11:02 PM
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Whomever posted last.

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pfff - 28 September 2009 10:51 PM

Of course, then I’d just be a co-opter there.

why would you choose to do that? You dont really seem like the type to “start changing it for the worse and claiming ownership of things they have had nothing to do with until last week…”

Smart. Ass. Dick.

Interloper, then. How’s that?

Bugg - 28 September 2009 10:51 PM

The only thing you’ve co-opted is my heart, and you did that with great posting.

You are a great example of someone who BOARDs HARD.

Flattery will get you everywhere!

Um…...

Sorry.

Although I never got really “into” the Asheville scene to the degree that others have, I do know that around the time Vincent’s closed I was pretty much hard-pressed to find any reason to go downtown anymore. I never could figure out why.

On the other hand, if I could, I would absolutely live downtown - even now. I love the idea of living in a downtown district - hell, I didn’t want to leave New York City the first time I went up there (not long ago).

Bleh. I’m rambling. Tired. Must. Sleep.

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Reply #27 • Sep 28, 2009  11:08 PM
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richey - 28 September 2009 10:28 PM

####### please ####### stop ####### doing ####### that.  ####.

Are you talking to me? And if you are what are you ranting about..?

Steamboater - 28 September 2009 09:31 PM

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Reply #28 • Sep 28, 2009  11:09 PM
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There is a charm to living in anything that is downtown feeling. I know it sounds dumb, but my lady and I thought about getting a downtown apartment in Sylva before we found the house we rent now.

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Reply #29 • Sep 28, 2009  11:12 PM
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Bugg - 28 September 2009 11:09 PM

There is a charm to living in anything that is downtown feeling. I know it sounds dumb, but my lady and I thought about getting a downtown apartment in Sylva before we found the house we rent now.

Downtown Sylva is shockingly ok. Small, but nice.

Is Spring Street Cafe still open?

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It is. It’s horribly over priced, but here.

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