You might be talking about anti-psychotics..which is a totally different kind of med..most antidepressants have an opposite effect on sex.. the heightened mood and having more neurotransmitters available to process senses can actually make sex more pleasurable..course it’s different for everyone…..
The only reason I’m engaging you on this is because I’m amazed an RN with such vast experience is so terribly, terribly wrong.
The rate of SD, mainly an effect on the libido, present in people taking SSRI’s is around 40% if I remember correctly, with results varying depending on the medication. People may not be as depressed but it doesn’t necessarily make them hornier, capiche?
Thanx Bob..for the clarification..I was talking off the cuff..and speaking from my experience…I was working mostly with very depressed patients who were considering suicide..Most the patients I worked with stated they were having a more satisfactory sense experience and enjoyed life more including sexual interest after taking antidepressants….But your facts are a more accurate picture of the effect of antidepressants especially SSRI’s..here’s some ideas for those who are using these antidepressants and would like to enhance your sex life..
The antidepressants least likely to cause sexual side effects are Wellbutrin, Remeron and Serzone. In the study mentioned above, no one taking Wellbutrin noted sexual side effects. If you and your doctor decide that the best antidepressant for you is an SSRI, you can still minimize your chances of sexual side effects. One approach, pioneered by psychiatrist Dr. Anthony Rothschild at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Mass., is to take weekends off the drug. He worked with 30 couples, one [person] of whom was taking an SSRI (Prozac, Paxil or Zoloft). They stopped taking their medication on Thursday morning and resumed Sunday at noon. Half of those taking Paxil and Zoloft noticed marked increases in libido and sexual satisfaction. But only 10 percent of Prozac users noticed any sexual benefit probably because compared with the other SSRIs, Prozac takes longer to clear from the blood. If you want to try this, be sure to do so under your doctor’s supervision. Do not stop taking your antidepressant without your doctor’s approval and supervision. Another approach to preventing SSRI-related sex problems may be to take the herb ginkgo [biloba] at the same time. In a recent study published in the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy by researchers at the University of California at San Francisco Medical Center, 63 people experiencing sexual side effects from SSRIs, tricyclics and MAO inhibitors took ginkgo extract. Ninety-one percent of the women and 76 percent of the men noted improvement in sexual functioning. Ginkgo side effects included headache and upset stomach. It’s not clear why ginkgo helps reduce the sexual side effects of antidepressants.
Ok I need a tutorial on how to do the line break thing..I looks so cool..
So, you can choose to continue pretending that by calling me anal-retentive that I will somehow see the errors of my ways and go back and read your entire post the way it is (or suffer through the horrors of myspace and read it there) or you could just admit that what you posted looks like an Asperger’s sufferer’s idea of avant-garde and/or post-modern textualization of an idea wrapped up in a festive garlic-rosemary pita and served with a side order of white liberal guilt and go back to the “edit” button on your OP and add ####### line breaks to your post and then you can rest assured that I will read it and then I will eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit out a response for you and it will likely still make more sense and smell better than whatever poop you come up with.
Ok Mat since I am the only Mental Health Care Professional here on the forum..you just need to stop your diagnosing…By the way did you know that as men grow older and reproduce they have a higher chance of having children with Asperger’s..Just a note for you old guys with aspirations of having children..Keep it in your jock strap we have too many mentally deficient guys in this world..look at me…
You know why you are drowning on this board with pathetic content? Because when someone like Andy appears, you boil over with schlock posts, like those you abhor from others.
I thought I was the only one drowning on this board with pathetic content..we need to start our own thread..“called..uuuhh “Pathetic Content” ..
maybe hes a nice guy, and maybe he’s a genuis, but your standard has been known to be, er, fairly low.
I have never in my whole life met so many self proclaimed musical geniuses since I’ve moved to Asheville must be in the water…Now I taught music for 35 years and play 10 musical instruments and I’m still waiting to find me a real bonafied musical genius here in the Paris of the South…I hope you are one Andy..
In regard to the notion that mat and others being snarky and pushy and wanting, you know, a modicum of intellect is ‘driving people away’
Let’s get real you guys!!! You are the snarkiest pushiest, ego centric, over blown, narcissistic bunch of blow hards I’ve ever know…love you guys..
, i have to chuckle. not too long ago mat was dog piled by mr bugg and others when he first appeared, but he stuck around instead of running off like a hurt puppy. It’s amazing how knowing what the #### you’re talking about and being able to take your lumps when your wrong can make a little poking and prodding not serious business.
When these guys aren’t tearing each other to bits on the forum..they troll neighborhoods for puppies to torture..that’s just the way they roll..
A) someone who goes off on something like spelling, grammar or formatting is “negative,” and/or
Puncuation is for wussies. from The Book of Posting by Richey
I can tolerate a lot of things. I can handle when certain men dressed as nuns go on a binge and post insane ramblings. I can handle it when four others go ape poop for three days about said ramblings.
Holy shit monkeys Mat..Your’e not gonna get a birthday card this year..shame shame ..your mama never told you not to pick on nuns..?
Assuming this were true, it has no bearing on this thread. No one mentioned his band except you. If and when his band is covered in a thread, I will take that opportunity to discuss his band. This is not that time. Stay on topic.
I have pity for you and your negative perspective.
I love it when people say that. It is almost as amusing as “I am going to pray for you.”
I also enjoy how the assumption is always made that either:
A) someone who goes off on something like spelling, grammar or formatting is “negative,” and/or
B) telling someone that they are being negative is going to automatically shame them or make them have some sort of epiphany about their life.
Or maybe it is used just to simply say “I have nothing constructive to say, so I shall reach for a cliche.”
Your attempt at a pithy put-down really is embarrassing, for you. If only you knew what an intellect Andy Palast is, you would never toss around such drivel towards him.
I am deeply and truly sorry. In the future, I will make sure my drivel is up to the standards of intellect that Mr. Palast deserves.
You, however, can still receive the standard drivel.
You know why you are drowning on this board with pathetic content? Because when someone like Andy appears, you boil over with schlock posts, like those you abhor from others.
I don’t think you read this forum very much. If you did, you would realize that you pretty much just called Andy’s post “schlock.” I have never complained about the “pathetic content” on this board.
I can tolerate a lot of things. I can handle when certain men dressed as nuns go on a binge and post insane ramblings. I can handle it when four others go ape poop for three days about said ramblings. I can handle it when someone comes in with some half-baked notion of the “lives of quiet desperation” led by the grunts of the service industry, while failing completely to realize how utterly misplaced most of his angst is. I can handle it when the replies to me instantly wander into the field of “anal-retentive” and “negative” (again, I recognize that as a tactic to avoid addressing an issue by dressing up a participant in the conversation as having some sort of dysfunction - one which prevents them from seeing the intellect inherent in what they are saying: as though posting ten paragraphs of what appears to be a regurgitation of a discussion from a college humanities classroom in one single, unbroken wall of text isn’t doing that for them).
So, yes. When someone like Andy appears and wants to be taken seriously, I tend to demand a tiny bit of common sense to go with the “intellect.” If Andy wants me to take his posts seriously then Andy needs to learn how to format. Sure, he can spell and he seems to have a pretty good grasp of syntax and grammar but he apparently does not have an “enter” key on his keyboard. (Protip: There are two of them; if one breaks, try the other).
Now since we are still discussing walls of text and the inability or unwillingness to use the key that inserts line breaks into text, let’s go ahead and mention the fact that I, at times, have posted walls of text here. Are they serious essays on the nature of the dehumanizing effects of menial wage slavery jobs on workers? No. They are stream of consciousness bits of fluff. I don’t take them seriously and I don’t expect anyone else to.
Then again, I don’t take myself too seriously at all. If I did, I might go around monogramming my posts on a forum.
JRM
Did you seriously just monogram your post? I can’t handle that.
Not to mention ol andy still has refused to provide anything other than anecdotal proof of his claim that poverty and homelessness are “Virtually nonexistent” (becuase, you know, he “didnt see any”) in a good potion of europe. A term which he really could have just taken back as being a bit over-zealous, but, NO, he decided pretend that by mentioning this JUST ISNT TRUE makes me some kind of europe basher who will defend the free-market over those commie socialists in europe.
So, FAIL for andy, who cant defend his position worth two poops, and of course, FAIL for JeRM for all the the usual, obvious similar reasons. Oh, and cuz no one can stand him IRL.
Ok Mat since I am the only Mental Health Care Professional here on the forum
How do you know that? And I thought you were an RN?
..you just need to stop your diagnosing…By the way did you know that as men grow older and reproduce they have a higher chance of having children with Asperger’s..
we have too many mentally deficient guys in this world
Hey, mental health professional, Asperger’s is not a mental deficiency.
i suspect his credentials are as legitimate as andy palasts off-the-cuff anecdotal evidence.
Holy shrunken monkey balls!!!..I worked hard to become an RN..I diagnosed Bugg with in the first week I was here.. Don’t make me go crazy Psych RN on your ass..Mr Antisocial Personality…
richey - 20 October 2009 12:04 PM
Ok Mat since I am the only Mental Health Care Professional here on the forum
How do you know that? And I thought you were an RN?
A Psych RN.. and don’t you think running a 35 bed patient unit with 10 LPNs and mental health workers for 30 years qualifies me?
..you just need to stop your diagnosing…By the way did you know that as men grow older and reproduce they have a higher chance of having children with Asperger’s..
we have too many mentally deficient guys in this world
Hey, mental health professional, Asperger’s is not a mental deficiency.
Asperger Syndrome or (Asperger’s Disorder) is a neurobiological disorder named for a Viennese physician, Hans Asperger, who in 1944 published a paper which described a pattern of behaviors in several young boys who had normal intelligence and language development, but who also exhibited autistic-like behaviors and marked deficiencies in social and communication skills. In spite of the publication of his paper in the 1940’s, it wasn’t until 1994 that Asperger Syndrome was added to the DSM IV and only in the past few years has AS been recognized by professionals and parents.
Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes, smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see. It’s important to remember that the person with AS perceives the world very differently. Therefore, many behaviors that seem odd or unusual are due to those neurological differences and not the result of intentional rudeness or bad behavior, and most certainly not the result of “improper parenting”.
Folks with autistic-like behaviors and marked deficiencies in social and communication skills...HHMM sounds like it might be a mental problem..might be based in the physical…But this kinda mind fruck could go on for a life time.. You’re out of your league on this one…Bob…
Mental retardation is a developmental disability that first appears in children under the age of 18. It is defined as an intellectual functioning level (as measured by standard tests for intelligence quotient) that is well below average and significant limitations in daily living skills (adaptive functioning).
Well I’ll be! Asperger’s isn’t a mental deficiency. Period.
I may not have an RN license - which in no way qualifies you as a mental health professional, and certainly doesn’t qualify you to diagnose (psst, it makes you a nurse) but I’m certainly not out of my league.
may i suggest you just go to greenlife and smile at the endless supply of awesome women they hire .... you might not have to face the rampant apathy at other stores
When I started this thread I did so in the hopes of getting some substantive input, good or bad, about the topic. Instead, this thread has devolved into a collection of inane unrelated pissing contests. Sad.
Mat,
I went and fixed the post for you. Now hopefully you won’t have to suffer another of those easily-induced headaches. For the record, I always did have line breaks in it. When I was entering it into the message draft box the line breaks were present. Only after posting did they disappear. It’s a glitch with this program I haven’t found when using other forums, so I wasn’t used to it. Crucify me.
“someone comes in with some half-baked notion of the “lives of quiet desperation” led by the grunts of the service industry, while failing completely to realize how utterly misplaced most of his angst is.”
1. OK then, enlighten me. Give me some substantive counterpoints.
2. My misplaced angst? This coming from someone who gets their panties in a twist over line breaks and JRM signing off with a monogram?!? Oh, the horror! Someone wrote their initials! Run for the hills! Seriously, what is so offensive about a monogram for christ’s sake? And if that and lack of line breaks are your biggest sources of torment, you’re the last person who should be accusing someone else of misplaced angst.
Pfff,
You keep asserting that I haven’t or can’t respond to your arguments when anyone can see that I already did. You challenged one line about homelessness and I responded. And I even thanked you for reminding me that it has increased in Europe since I was there. Now you keep harping about anecdotal evidence as if that were all I had and that the facts contradict my whole point. Do you really dispute that Europeans live longer than us, are better educated than us, have lower crime rates than us, are more satisfied with their lives than us, etc? Do you really need me to go find a bunch of factual links and post them here for you? (for starters, read “The European Dream” by Jeremy Rifkin)
Sure, none of these countries are perfect. I never said they were, only that we can learn from them. But Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Finland, come pretty damn close, even with this new global recession.
may i suggest you just go to greenlife and smile at the endless supply of awesome women they hire .... you might not have to face the rampant apathy at other stores
Ah yes, I do miss Greenlife. And Earth Fare. And the French Broad co-op. But I’m presently on the road in Baltimore,MD and have been away from Asheville for over a year.
may i suggest you just go to greenlife and smile at the endless supply of awesome women they hire .... you might not have to face the rampant apathy at other stores
Ah yes, I do miss Greenlife. And Earth Fare. And the French Broad co-op. But I’m presently on the road in Baltimore,MD and have been away from Asheville for over a year.
then i suggest you order pizza to be delivered nightly until you can make your way back to asheville and the opportunity to see the girls of greenlife ...
When I started this thread I did so in the hopes of getting some substantive input, good or bad, about the topic. Instead, this thread has devolved into a collection of inane unrelated pissing contests. Sad
wanna re-iterate for the more slow among us who might have missed the specifics of this substantive input you were seeking?
Well I’ll be! Asperger’s isn’t a mental deficiency. Period.
I may not have an RN license - which in no way qualifies you as a mental health professional, and certainly doesn’t qualify you to diagnose (psst, it makes you a nurse) but I’m certainly not out of my league.
You have no idea what I do for a living, jackass.
Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way Bob..you have a good point and you seem like you might be a social worker or a highly trained guy so sorry..
However your definition is pretty narrow and now we’re having a semantics pissing contest but here goes..
I don’t think you’ll disagree that these guys have some abnormality, some slowness in picking up on social cues, some backwardness, some underdevelopment..?
The symptoms of Asperger’s syndrome vary and can range from mild to severe. Common symptoms include:
* Problems with social skills: Children with Asperger’s syndrome generally have difficulty interacting with others and often are awkward in social situations. They generally do not make friends easily.
* Eccentric or repetitive behaviors: Children with this condition may develop odd, repetitive movements, such as hand wringing or finger twisting.
* Unusual preoccupations or rituals: A child with Asperger’s syndrome may develop rituals that he or she refuses to alter, such as getting dressed in a specific order.
* Communication difficulties: People with Asperger’s syndrome may not make eye contact when speaking with someone. They may have trouble using facial expressions and gestures, and understanding body language. They also tend to have problems understanding language in context.
* Limited range of interests: A child with Asperger’s syndrome may develop an intense, almost obsessive, interest in a few areas, such as sports schedules, weather, or maps.
* Coordination problems: The movements of children with Asperger’s syndrome may seem clumsy or awkward.
* Skilled or talented: Many children with Asperger’s syndrome are exceptionally talented or skilled in a particular area, such as music or math.
then i suggest you order pizza to be delivered nightly until you can make your way back to asheville and the opportunity to see the girls of greenlife ...
Ya know those folks at Greenlife look happier and are generally more attractive than your average Walmart human..
