I found this quote on my first post and realized it’s still good fodder for thoiught…
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average of the world’s greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage. Attributed to Alexander Tyler, an invented personage
Is it weird that I wish there was a pro tax party or candidate? A few people that were willing to say “hey everyone, we are wanting to raise your taxes (x) amount and we are going to do this with the money”.
It would almost be a breath of fresh air. I’ve been taught my entire life that taxes are evil and yet all I see is our education system and infrastructure crumbling along with a health care reform movement that is a fiasco at best.
Walter Mondale actually said something to that effect in the 1984 election, and the Republicans hammered him for it. The result was one of the biggest electoral college losses in American history (he lost all but Minnesota and DC). I can see why we haven’t seen that tactic since.
On topic, feel like the two parties are Coke and Pepsi, and anyone that tries to start a soda company of their own are going to be squeezed out of existence.
If their were a Snapple party I’d vote for them..They’re made from good stuff..
If you’ve been voting for the Coke Party..you could draw a fascinating parallel between Coke and pour present Government.. Click here…
And yet he still posts a link to it like it’s relevant to the discussion at hand.
On topic, feel like the two parties are Coke and Pepsi, and anyone that tries to start a soda company of their own are going to be squeezed out of existence.
Maybe, if something started on a regional level, that would work. But I just don’t see the money coming from anywhere to fund a national level third party.
You have hit the nail on the head. The change MUST start locally. The primary weakness of third parties has been their focus on state and federal races where large amounts of money are necessary to even get in the game, rather than be the rodeo clown.
The parties have built infrastructures that function from the precinct to the national level.
Third Party types are like someone who drives a car in off the street into a NASCAR race and wonders why they can’t compete.
And yet he still posts a link to it like it’s relevant to the discussion at hand.
On topic, feel like the two parties are Coke and Pepsi, and anyone that tries to start a soda company of their own are going to be squeezed out of existence.
Maybe, if something started on a regional level, that would work. But I just don’t see the money coming from anywhere to fund a national level third party.
You have hit the nail on the head. The change MUST start locally. The primary weakness of third parties has been their focus on state and federal races where large amounts of money are necessary to even get in the game, rather than be the rodeo clown.
The parties have built infrastructures that function from the precinct to the national level.
Third Party types are like someone who drives a car in off the street into a NASCAR race and wonders why they can’t compete.
Except for the part about wanting to vote Green, liking Michael Moore, or failing to see the difference between the two power parties you appear to be a wise man. ;)
Is this what you do? You’ve linked two of your old threads in this thread, neither of which have a damn thing to do with the discussion at hand.
I realize my effort at making a parallel connection with our Government and the media outlets that fills us full of useless information and makes us sick and Coke that fills us with high fructose corn syrup that makes us sick..is a stretch..but the same guys guys ..own the same companies ..doing the same behavior..
Also you’re talking about the possibilities of creating a third party..pros and cons..I’m just suggesting the possibility of having one party that serves the people..without all the bipartisan, tripartisan ...squabbles that immobilize the country…
We’ve been fighting over getting healthcare for the poor folks for decades..hell if we really wanted to in the last six months we could have set up small nurse practitioner clinics in Walmarts and created 30 dollar a visit doctor appointments..also we would create 1000s of jobs..But we’re still wasting our time arguing about what and how and when and why..ad naseum..
A one party system could get us through the greed and waste and start serving the people..
Except for the part about wanting to vote Green, liking Michael Moore, or failing to see the difference between the two power parties you appear to be a wise man. ;)
If you read that carefully, you’ll see that I didn’t say I wanted to vote Green - only that Michael Moore was encouraging people like me to do so.
I won’t lie and say that I don’t like Michael Moore now or that I didn’t like him then. He isn’t perfect but then, who is?
Oh and I don’t fail to see the difference between the two power parties - I fail to see any remarkable difference.
To be fair to Mondale, he did get something like 40% of the popular vote, he just failed on the electoral level. It looks like a much worse loss than it really is.
Except for the part about wanting to vote Green, liking Michael Moore, or failing to see the difference between the two power parties you appear to be a wise man. ;)
I know mat already said so, but after reading that article of his, i have to wonder, thunder, if you can read?
