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Jun 16, 2008  12:57 PM
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Alright, here it is—the Xpress-approved place to argue over the better candidate for President. Keep it reasonably civil, and veer away from personal attacks on other users, but otherwise enjoy the spirited debate of politics that has made the internet a great place.

Some talking points:

1. Is McCain little more than George W. Bush 2.0?

2. Is Obama too inexperienced to handle the massive problems plaguing the country today?

3. Who will be the Vice-Presidental candidates?

4. What do you wish the various candidates would talk about that they aren’t?

 
Reply #1 • Jun 20, 2008  01:56 PM
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I am voting for Obama because I’m not a retard who is beholden to some idea about a superhero Jesus who will come smite us for killing babies.

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Reply #2 • Jun 24, 2008  02:34 PM
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Here’s an interesting thought.  I think for the first time in decades, conservative Christians are faced with a Republican candidate who might be less religious than the Democratic one.  How will they go this November?

 
Reply #3 • Jun 24, 2008  07:57 PM
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I’m thinking they might stay home Orbitz. IIRC, McCain has tacked towards the religious right since his last campaign. I’m not sure I believe it and I don’t think they do either. I do think he believes in God but I don’t think he, deep down, shares the agenda of the most vocal religious factions in the Republican party. Whether he’ll adhere to their agenda if he’s elected is not something I’m willing to gamble on.

I do think McCain would have done a much better job than Bush had he won the primaries and the subsequent election, but I was more fond of Bradley that year.

 
Reply #4 • Jul 01, 2008  03:53 PM
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the republicans (i hesitate to say “bush” because i believe it was the much brighter strategists who managed this) won the last presidential election largely on “morality” issue of homosexuality ... that one is numbing in america’s mindset in the face of economic crises and foreign policy crises, and with the additional 4 years of social evolution on the issue ...

i predict we will hear a lot about abortion rights and the roe v. wade issue in this election ... it’s pretty much all mccain has to offer in the face of the failures he’d inherit from bush and i heard this past weekend that there are two supreme court justices who may be replaced during the upcoming administration.

abortion has been a subdued issue in the media coverage of last few elections and i predict it will take a much more prominent role in the discussions and campaigns in coming months. it divides the liberal base and galvanizes the conservative right with not much else to hold them together.

 
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Reply #6 • Jul 13, 2008  06:04 PM
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if Mc Cain will win, the world again will smile a whole lot is think… how old is he? well, the question is if he in his ae will even be able to handle the winning stress without getting an heart attack...smile…

if people just would open their eyes and see that an beauty operatet old super hero who havenot even an normal face anymore could never be the answer… than they would see what they get…

an ooooooooooooooooold man who more care for his face lifting job who has an big problem to get older....huh how many lifting sessions he will have to join if he is the president?

this time the question i think is not really if obama would be the better person… this time it will be about having an real change and make people thinking in what is going on.
if you talk with people why they vote for this or that person...well, most of the time you get surface answers what never ever gets even deeper in what this is about… too sad, but most people clearly e not even an idea what this country needs (beside cheap gas for huge cars, hugh payment for work and such stuff)

obama is the only person who brings the americans to just start rethinking things and he is the only person who tell people that THEY can DO something… just because this, obama is an great person to vote for. the people need an tiny little bit of hope to start new things…

and i think that hillary will be the vice president, just because obama needs her to win…

if it will about stuff lik abortions and such stuff… well, all this have to do with believing and opinions but it is for an country not very importand at all

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Reply #7 • Jul 17, 2008  10:55 AM
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I think that the debate will be over two points, that Steve alluded to above.

1) Senator John McCain will continue to raise questions about Senator Barak Hussein Obama’s lack of experience on the federal level. Afterall, the junior Senator from Illinois, Obama, only served about 6 months actively in the Senate before his run for president. One cannot pay attention to the issues and vote if one is running for president. Before this, he served in the Illinois congress. Before that, he was a community organizer.

McCain will spend a lot of time reminding the American people that president is not an-on-the-job learning experience...that is if the country is to be led properly. Very dangerous international situations abound. The wrong decision could prove very painful for the USA. Domestically, we are in a recession, made worse over energy price concerns.

McCain will say that Obama doesn’t have the experience to deal with either foreign or domestic issues. McCain will contrast Obama’s lack of experience with his own gravitias in this area. 27 years in the Senate, and many years as a US Navy combat pilot and POW during Vietnam. Senator McCain will push continued tax cuts to fuel an economic comeback.

2) Senator Barack Hussein Obama will attempt to tie Senator McCain to the unpopularity of the President George Bush years. He will highlight the fact that this current recession has happened on Bush’s watch, and that McCain will likely continue at least some of Bush’s policies.

Senator Obama will also attempt to tie Senator McCain to the unpopular Iraq War, even though Obama has had to admit of late that the surge has worked, and is waffling on ending the war quickly. The Obama campaign will make an issue of McCain’s age while highlighting the fact that Obama is young.

Also...religion will not play a major role for either side. McCain has never been a sweetheart of the conservative religious organizations who are in favor of morality and pro-life/anti-abortion positions. Obama has a history of being a Muslim as a youth, and a 20 year association with Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s controversial “liberation theology” church in Chicago. This is much more of a negative for Obama. Conservative church goer’s will hold their noses and vote for Senator McCain.

Also...We will hear from the unofficial voices of left and right. MoveOn.org, funded by the extreme wealth of George Soros, will run TV ads attempting to show McCain as unworthy by saying things about him Obama’s campaign will not. A new “swiftboat” type conservative group will run TV ads highlighting Obama’s 20 association with Rev Wright, a close friend of the anti-semite Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. Obama’s long friendship with the domestic terrorist William Ayers will be brought up, especially in discussion of Obama’s early refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin and not repeat the Pledge of Allegiance with his hand over his heart. And who knows what more juicy bits will come up about either candidate. I’ve got breaking news on one of them. MoveOn.org’s George Soros’ father was a Nazi sympathizer who actively pointed out Jews for the Nazi’s to take away. Little George appears in photographs accompanying his father. Ah, the spectacle of Soros showing Bush as a Nazi when he himself has the actual connection. Can anyone say “projection”? -:)

 
Reply #8 • Jul 17, 2008  11:51 AM
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Even though I usually disagree with him, W.P. Miller’s predictions actually seem somewhat accurate. The left and right will play both of these cards. I think we’ll see less “Swiftboating” than in the last election—both candidates have asked that their related groups pull back on this stuff, as it increasingly seems like cheap politics—but otherwise I’d say this is an accurate view of the strategy and talking points.

 
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i think what ever they will point to the US people is just not verry importand.
it is, in fact not importand if somebody who runs for president was in the army or how long, it is not even importand if somebody was an super hero in an war who we all know it was an disaster for millions of people, it is not even importand that the now president runned away from the army and hided in the fun home or such stuff… who in fact realy needs to care if somebody was before an senoator and how long, or not?
nobody should at all…

most other modern countries have no senators like the usa have.

our german ladie president...lovely angela merkel… world can pretty much say… no experience before… BUT, hey, no, that people HAVE experiences… they have an breain and they can think and they where involved in being an normal caring person for their countries…
if i´m not wrong, than he cared for many political things since loooooong time…

all presidents have to learn the real job of becoming an president by doing ...

as an normal human being… wo even cares where somebody holds his hands over his heart or not?
you see in all churches in the first row lot of super religious bible people..and guess what..99% of them would not even give the poor at the churchstep an piece of bread… but the bible say to do…

it is importand HOW his heart is ond not where his hands are…

funny funny what they will point to the american people…

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Reply #10 • Jul 21, 2008  08:48 PM
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i think the way mccain left his wife for a younger, richer women is gross. He’s a deadbeat.

Plus, he talks like he has cotton in his mouth.

I dont generally trust people over 70, since most of them can not drive very well, and think Glen Miller is pop culture.

I like Obama because he is a muslim extremist. America needs the ko-ran to guide us in these new, confusing times.

Christianity has lead to Abortions, Gay Marriage and Global Warming, not to mention the Rise of Jason Bugg.

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Reply #11 • Jul 21, 2008  09:20 PM
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I may be a lot of things, but I’m no Christian.

I hate that McCain can’t feed himself.

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Reply #12 • Jul 22, 2008  08:30 PM
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I think Jason Bugg should run for President.

(Edited: 22 July 2008 09:34 PM by posnideus)
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Reply #13 • Jul 22, 2008  09:14 PM
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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Reply #14 • Jul 22, 2008  09:25 PM
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Jason Bugg - 22 July 2008 09:14 PM

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

What he said.

I really tried.

 
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posnideus - 22 July 2008 08:30 PM

I think Jason Bugg should run for President.

Also, I wouldn’t take the pay cut.

Yes, you heard it here. The Xpress pays that well. Plus the free haircuts are great.

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