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Aug 23, 2008  05:48 AM
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http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-biden23-2008aug23,0,7564344.story

OK folks, how about let’s discuss Joe Biden’s addition to the Democratic ticket.  I’ll start by saying I have always loved this guy.  He seems a cut above the average politician in his willingness to tell it as he sees it and let the chips fall where they may. Whether or not this is a good quality may be debatable but it fits with me just fine.

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Reply #1 • Aug 23, 2008  07:21 AM
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Biden is OK, but he sure is wordy and a bit arrogant. Spo he’ll fit with the arrogant Obama Ok I guess. But experience-wise, the ticket should be Biden/Obama, not the other way around.

 
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Anybody want to consider the fact that arrogance and the seeking of high office go hand in hand?  No one has been more arrogant that the current administration led by President Dick Cheney and front man George W Bush.

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Reply #3 • Aug 23, 2008  12:16 PM
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People in the inner circle of The Masked Superstar have long thought that Biden would be a good VP candidate.

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TomH - 23 August 2008 05:48 AM

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-biden23-2008aug23,0,7564344.story

OK folks, how about let’s discuss Joe Biden’s addition to the Democratic ticket.  I’ll start by saying I have always loved this guy.  He seems a cut above the average politician in his willingness to tell it as he sees it and let the chips fall where they may. Whether or not this is a good quality may be debatable but it fits with me just fine.

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Joe Biden is the Al Haig of the Democrat Party. He is unelectable to national office on his own right and he has a very bad habit, politically of course, of speaking long before he actually thinks. He is also a plagiarist who got caught at it and truly does suffer from an incredible arrogance. Now, in spite of those negatives, he is probably one of the stronger Democrat candidates to fill the open spot of a rather insignificant office.

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Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

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True, but a guy who was in The Keating 5 is not someone I want steering the economy, and a guy who doesn’t even know how many homes he owns is not someone I want trying to fix the housing issue.

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travelah - 23 August 2008 03:06 PM

Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

He may be feeling it more than anyone.  Who better to know change is needed than an old pro?  I know, habits get formed etc. but I have to tell you, at 70 I still see a LOT of change that’s needed. This, however, I don’t see as Biden’s function.  I rather see him as chief adviser in those areas he can claim some expertise.  Obama is letting us know up front that he is not going to be looking for yes men. Joe Biden will be a team player regardless.  I trust the man, if he accepts the roll he will play it.

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travelah - 23 August 2008 03:06 PM

Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

You would then also have to say that about McCain, except he has been an ardent supporter and member of a disastrous republican administration .....

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TomH - 23 August 2008 03:19 PM
travelah - 23 August 2008 03:06 PM

Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

He may be feeling it more than anyone.  Who better to know change is needed than an old pro?  I know, habits get formed etc. but I have to tell you, at 70 I still see a LOT of change that’s needed. This, however, I don’t see as Biden’s function.  I rather see him as chief adviser in those areas he can claim some expertise.  Obama is letting us know up front that he is not going to be looking for yes men. Joe Biden will be a team player regardless.  I trust the man, if he accepts the roll he will play it.

LOL, I suspect you, TomH, “respect” Biden simply because he has a (D) after his name. Same with Obama. Here you have a weak ticket, if you look carefully. As Mr Travelah has noted, Biden cannot be elected to any other office than senator of Delaware, try as he may. Biden is a wordy man or tends to talk down to others. And he was caught in plagarism, then lying about it. Biden is also on record praising John McCain and saying McCain is good for the country. Biden has also been in government longer than any other senator. “Change” candidate? I don’t think so. -:)

One of the reasons this ticket is weak, is you have 2 northern liberals on it. That will not play well in the South. And without the South, no one can be elected. Obama would have been better served picking Evan Bayh, a decent, moderate democrat from a state more palpible to Southern voters. Northeastern and Chicago politicians are well known for talking down to the South, and believe me, we don’t forget that here.

The weakest part of Obama’s campaign is this. He is inexperienced, and he is an empty suit who is more interested in getting elected than actually standing for something. Or rather, LOOKING like he stands for something. Once in office, Rev Wright, Bill Ayers, and Louis Farrakhan will dominate his ear. Farrakhan has said Obama is the “messiah” Black Muslims have been waiting for. Scary, isn’t it? Anyone for bowing in the direction of Mecca 5 times a day and praying to Allah?

There is a clear cut choice in this election. John McCain has the character, the guts, the experience to lead us for the next 4 years. My vote is going for the logical choice. John McCain.

 
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“By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth.
George Carlin”

And both Obama and Biden are real “wordsmiths”. Big concealers of the truth. -:)

 
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travelah - 23 August 2008 03:06 PM

Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

You would then also have to say that about McCain, except he has been an ardent supporter and member of a disastrous republican administration .....

McCain is noted for going toe to toe with Rumsfeld. What position did McCain have in the Bush administration?

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Biden was selected. But my money had been on this guy. Obama’s old pal Bill Ayers.
Perhaps he will be tapped as Secretary of State? Then we may just have more of this, as Bill has said he wished he had done more bombing of American buildings back in the early 1960s.

 
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Jefferson Ideal - 24 August 2008 06:04 AM

Biden was selected. But my money had been on this guy. Obama’s old pal Bill Ayers.
Perhaps he will be tapped as Secretary of State? Then we may just have more of this, as Bill has said he wished he had done more bombing of American buildings back in the early 1960s.

Then he would be perfect for the upcoming Iran invasion.

 
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travelah - 23 August 2008 03:06 PM

Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

For once, we agree. Biden is an inside man. I don’t think he was a bad choice, but he’s hardly a Washington outsider. It’s a mixed message, certainly.

 
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travelah - 24 August 2008 12:47 AM
tattttms - 23 August 2008 07:12 PM
travelah - 23 August 2008 03:06 PM

Also, a man who has been a power in Washington Democrat politics for 36 years is not exactly a “change candidate” :)

You would then also have to say that about McCain, except he has been an ardent supporter and member of a disastrous republican administration .....

McCain is noted for going toe to toe with Rumsfeld. What position did McCain have in the Bush administration?

None Trav, although the die-hards this side of the aisle will mince meat with you on that issue. I loved McCain and Bradley that year (’00 was it?) they both ran “maverick” campaigns and hoped they’d be the ticket I could vote for. McCain has changed my perception about himself since then and I’d rather be fooled by the newer guy.

Two-party system’ll fool us all everytime. Just how exactly do you choose when your own core issues have zero to do with the geist?

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