Meh. Someone has to do it, and chances are any religious leader will have something some group can complain about. Warren is just a nod to the current flavor of popular Christianity. There’s no one in the Christian mainstream that the Obama camp could name that I’d be excited about. The only person that even remotely comes to mind as interesting to me is Jay Bakker, and that would never, ever happen.
I fail to see what this last post has to do with Rick Warren, or The topic at hand.
I fail to see what right bobby had to assail me personally just because I don’t happen to believe in the Christian god? I don’t suppose this little interchange will be well received by Steve but I have to say my truth, like it or not.
Yes, Tom, it was a joke. Obviously we don’t know each other personally, but I’d assumed from all the posts we’ve made that you would have realized it, considering I’ve never assailed you before for your beliefs.
Meh. Someone has to do it, and chances are any religious leader will have something some group can complain about. Warren is just a nod to the current flavor of popular Christianity. There’s no one in the Christian mainstream that the Obama camp could name that I’d be excited about. The only person that even remotely comes to mind as interesting to me is Jay Bakker, and that would never, ever happen.
What is also funny to me, is that i think steves opinion represents a lot of folks on the “left”, and yet the media is already starting to string out this narrative that says that liberals are so upset over this, or any new thing obama does. No, they really arent. Its just the press trying to make a story out of a pile of doody.
Meh. Someone has to do it, and chances are any religious leader will have something some group can complain about. Warren is just a nod to the current flavor of popular Christianity. There’s no one in the Christian mainstream that the Obama camp could name that I’d be excited about. The only person that even remotely comes to mind as interesting to me is Jay Bakker, and that would never, ever happen.
What is also funny to me, is that i think steves opinion represents a lot of folks on the “left”, and yet the media is already starting to string out this narrative that says that liberals are so upset over this, or any new thing obama does. No, they really arent. Its just the press trying to make a story out of a pile of doody.
You really should get out more then. Did you see the quotes I listed? Read the comments? Visited ScruHoo? These folks aren’t CNN or FoxNews. If you don’t think liberals are pissed you aren’t paying attention.
Seriously, the only place i see much of this conversation occurring is the blogosphere, which you yourself seem to be re-enforcing. None of my neighbors or friends or aquantences who voted Obammer and consider themselves “liberal” have ever said anything of the sort. quite the contrary, they feel as i do that this is just the media having a circle jerk. No one i know voted for Obama thinking he would be Nicola Sacco or even Dennis Kucinich.
Of course, his choice of Tom Vil-sack for Ag dept did kinda concern me. The dude is big time GMO, but, then again, i didnt vote for Obama.
I agree with those of you who see this as a good sign that Obama might keep his pledge to forgo the partisan games of the last 10 years. Although I dislike religion being a part of any government function, I understand most Americans consider themselves Christian, and therefore only the bravest politician would do without a religious figurehead as part of the ceremony.
Joel Olstein is a good charismatic Christian speaker
Rick Warren be damned. We’ve had 8 years of these peopled, enough already!
And thus, your true colors concerning your views of Christians.
What you don’t seem to comprehend is, I’ve no problem with individuals who happen to be Christians. Many of my relatives are such and I was, myself, raised in a Christian family. My problem is with organized religion, all of them! Now, if you would like to have a conversation about this, please do, but your post is accusatory, not a good place to begin.
The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. - Thomas Jefferson
And yours wasn’t? If you have an equal bias against all organized religions you might prove yourself by occasionally criticizing something other than Christianity.
And yours wasn’t? If you have an equal bias against all organized religions you might prove yourself by occasionally criticizing something other than Christianity.
Obama has not selected an Iman to speak at his inauguration, he picked a right wing preacher. Just sticking to topic sir, as ordered. It’s hardly something I go out of my way to do, so I feel no need to prove anything to you or anybody else. I don’t see any one playing Fox News reporter here, (Fair and Balanced)
