Where is the leadership in Asheville?  I watched people fill up their car and then fill up 3+ gasoline cans.  If people were limited to 10 gallons or $20 dollars, we wouldn’t be in this mess.  Unfortunately, we the people won’t regulate ourselves and it’s disappointing that the City Council is doing nothing to ease this chaos other than placing security and police at the stations.  It’s frightening to think how leadership will respond to a future, more serious crisis.  Leadership anyone?

Thank you for your report on the gas situation. I had been disappointed in local officials for not having any public action taken. I am glad to hear from your article that city officials are taking some measures, but aren’t they minimal? Couldn’t they be doing more?

Oh, look we are saved… help from Georgia

ashevillian.blogspot.com/2008/09/relief-from-ga.html

http://ashevillian.blogspot.com/2008/09/relief-from-ga.html

Last Word as of 6:30pm

The Enmark on Leicester Highway (Just down from Ingles) regular gas just arrived:  It will be at least a half-hour before they can start pumping because of the way the tanks are.  There were several cars following the truck into the station that was already lined up.  $3.78/gal

BJ’s on Haywood road does not currently have gas, but the truck is due to arrive at 11 AM.  Look to be able to pump by noon.  $4.04/gal

Rumor mill has it that Greens gas on Depot Street, Sylva got gas at 4pm and may already be out for all i know.  Rumor was it was at $4.40/gal.

As of 6 PMish…there was no gas in Sylva except for the Enmark Station, but the line was several dozen long when I drove through.

The lines were crazy long an hour ago - but the Shell on 240&Merrimon;has gas again - also either Enmark or Citistop on Merrimon (North Asheville) has gas tonight (didn’t earlier today).

When I managed to get some gas at the Shell yesterday (after a 45minute wait), they were limiting everyone to $30 worth.  Probably still are…

It is making me a little crazy to see people in the lines “topping off” - while others, who *didn’t* act like hoarding jerks, are completely out.  I’m not surprised that folks are getting testy.

I seriously thought my car was going to run completely out while I was waiting in line!  (At first, I figured a bunch of us could probably push it up to the pump….but then I got a look at the expressions on the other people waiting in the line.  eeks.)

Let’s retaliate against the government!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is this morning’s gas scoop in Weaverville:

There is gas @ the New Stock Road Ingles & Citgo, but traffic is backed up in all directions… good luck getting to work!

I made my own gas using a mixture of shampoo, pbr and sparkling water.

Sharon Connolly wrote: “If people were limited to 10 gallons or $20 dollars, we wouldn’t be in this mess.”

If the government had not outlawed setting the correct price for gas we wouldn’t be in this mess.

http://timpeck.blogspot.com/2008/09/price-gouging-laws.html

Rationing can make sense in certain instances, such as concert ticket sales. But it is a poor substitute for the effectiveness of pricing in a free commodities market.

The key problem with rationing is that it is arbitrary: Who will use what formula to determine which consumers deserve how much gas for which uses and for how long? No one has this information. These are all functions of a free market that are circumvented by an arbitrary, coercive and ultimately unfair contrivance.

Rationing takes away the decision-making power of individuals. With freely fluctuating prices, individuals remain free to make economic decisions that best suit their conditions and abilities. Individuals are the better decision-makers in this case, not central planners.

http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=6076#comment-24251

It was slightly apocalyptic and eerie last night driving home -
There were very few vehicles on the highway, and several cars left along the side of the road with their flashers on acknowledging that they never made it to the next gas station.  I saw cars literally abandoned at fuel pumps - waiting for whenever the gas may arrive. 

Based on the research I am doing with the FOA project I can say with full confidence that I think Asheville is ahead of the game when it comes to trends of the new millennium.  Much of America is stuck in archaic mindsets - but Asheville’s population is at least conscious enough to know the current issues we face and we are ever fixed to the horizon of the future.  But we have a lot of work to do in order to prepare our city and population for the trends ahead, and this most recent regional gas crisis is a most fortunate learning experience. 

I sincerely doubt that this will be the only gasoline crisis that our region or our country will face in the coming decade.  And yes, the hassle of this all makes us question how we will get to work, get the kids to practice, or get ourselves to the grocery store - - but it also makes us question how well does our city work when we are forced to live without the blessed burden of gasoline vehicles.

Many people are being forced to now transport themselves either by foot, bicycle, public transportation, scooter, carpool, or by an alternative fuel vehicle.  This current gasoline crisis is giving us a lot of front-line experience so far as how our city does or does not work efficiently in these areas, what are our limitations & challenges, and what can we do to make it easier for our community to make the advancements necessary to help cross over from the former days of gasoline vehicles and reach out to instilling alternative, successful, cleaner, healthier forms of alternative transportation.

I would like to give a THUMBS UP to the Exxon of exit 37 on I-40 for their professionalism and grace last night, even though they were supposed to close at 11pm they stayed open and directed traffic effeiciently and kindly! They stayed open until everyone got gas long after midnight! Unlike the Shell station on Patton which gets a big THUMBS DOWN for their rude attitude to a panicked mother stalled right before the pump! The folks at the SHELL STATION showed their true colors when you slammed the lights off at 10pm on hundreds of people waiting! We even offered to help direct traffic and you still had 1500 gallons left! If this crisis ends we will remember the stations who showed respect for their customers! I will not even stop for a Coke at the Shell again you lost me and many more customers so enjoy all the $$$ your swimming in this week it may not last!

another abject failure of our “government” both local and federal….we had plenty of warning this hurricane was coming….there are stockpiles of gas all over this area in huge storage containers…greed and incompetency cont. to rule.

Sorry you guys gotta deal with this. Gas is such a needed and basic commodity. Hope they can bring in some more fuel soon.

Tim, I’m also sorry to say the free market economy is gone. Congrats, we are now part owners of AIG, and Fannie Mac, how does it feel to emulate the political system of our beloved France?

and yet the highway department still finds gas to run mowers on I40

good news at 1:44pm…. lots of tankers headed west on 40, someone did something somewhere

Tim Peck wrote:  “Rationing takes away the decision-making power of individuals. With freely fluctuating prices, individuals remain free to make economic decisions that best suit their conditions and abilities. Individuals are the better decision-makers in this case, not central planners.”

I appreciate your point of view and I still subscribe to leadership in times of crisis.  To you it is free market, to me it looks like greed.  It’s competition versus cooperation.  We should ration “concert tickets,” but not gas in a time of temporary crisis?  We make better decisions during a gas crisis than when buying concert tickets.  We should watch people get stranded on roadways while others fill an SUV and 3+ gasoline containers?  Have we lost our minds along with our spirits?  I agree gas should be expensive—it’s not a sustainable resource and again most people will not conserve voluntarily unless it hits their wallet, but here and now if there was leadership by our officials, if there was a temporary limit on the amount of gas purchased and if there was a sense of community cooperation I believe we would be getting through this in a much healthier way. 

The world needs people like you and me Tim—it’s all relative anyway isn’t it.

Well said, JBo.
I work at home, so it hasn’t affected me directly so much, just indirectly. Thank God.

Very good points from JBo.  Normally, I wouldn’t be too affected by this because I work from home and live within walking distance of a grocery store, but right now my husband is having a medical emergency which requires us to travel down to the hospital 3-4 times a week.  I don’t know what we’ll do if we run out of gas.

I want to send a big KUDOS to the guy in the red convertible in front of me at the Tobacco Outlet #2 in Tunnel Rd.  I approached this guy timidly already sterotype him as a snob (red covnertible?) Even after pumping (at 5:30 am ) he volunteered and help me block off the 3 ignorant azz*** that were trying and got away! with cutting the line.  There were people behind us with a wait of at least 45 mins and in a selfish,defient way these j**ks just cut off.  He did prevented others from cutting in.

Kudos for you Mr Red Convertible!  You were today’s hero. (Another guy of Asian origin helped too but I don’t know if he stayed or not)

Natural disasters are unpredictable and can add to our expenses. That’s why we need to be always be ready in every situation. By the way, Tennessee is the next state on the get-rid-of-payday-loans-bandwagon.  Payday loans legislation has been making its way through numerous state legislatures and currently Federal as well, and most popular among them is an outright ban on short term loans, cash advances, or whatever you want to call them.  The Tennessee bill is for an interest rate cap, capping interest at 36%, tantamount to a death sentence, and despite numerous studies demonstrating that bans do no one any good at all, lobbyists still try and advocate for the bans anyway.  Lenders in Tennessee would likely want some credit repair if the state bans lending payday loans.